28.1K subscribers The Glock 30 SF is a great option for concealed carry if you like a 45acp. I like to carry the Glock 20SF-it absorbs the 10mm recoil very effectively. In terms of accuracy, there was nothing in it. If the gun or mag in question is grandfathered, the owner can own it, use it or sell it, and it can be handled by an FFL. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Mk 23 Mod 0 (H & K) (.45 ACP) USSOCOM Misses also countjust ask the prosecutor as he tries you for hitting an innocent bystander. Too bad used GLOCKS in MA cost more than brand new ones elsewhere. Glock 19X (G19X) Crossover handgun featuring a compact slide with a full sized frame, built with no finger grooves, Glock Marksman Barrel, ambidextrous slide stop, and comes in coyote color. But at least our taxes are nice and high am I right? . When I told Eddie at AFS that I was carrying the Mass-compliant 10-round 9mm G19 in the new holster, he freaked me right the f out. FORGET IT!!! Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Swr Rmr Eaa Girsan Mc28Sa 9Mm, 4.8" Barrel, Perry Red Smith And Wesson Performance Center M&P M2.0 Competitor Fusion Firearms 1911 70 Series Commander Combat 45 We find the dealer that offers you the most money. Great test! High round count practice is exactly how you learn to shoot fast. If full-size isn't your thing, however, then you might consider moving to Glock's midsize 9mm 2. LEOs can buy new Glocks because, well . My results were NOT the same as that at all. If there is no capacity limit, the 9 may offer advantages such as higher capacity and quicker split times between shots depending on the shooter. I struggle with this decision as well. Model: GLOCK 30S Caliber: .45 Auto Magazine capacity: 10 (stock), 9 and 13 available Materials: Stainless steel slide and barrel, polymer frame Weight empty: 22.95 ounces Barrel Length: 3.77 Overall length: 6.96 Sights: Plastic, Dot in a U Action: Striker Fired Finish: Black Price: $545-600 ( $550 via Brownells) RATINGS (out of five stars): Since he has been in a DGU more than once, and Ive not ever been there, Ill have to take his word for it. If you practice slow, speeding up will only make you miss faster. Switching to 147gr 9mm (slower bullet, more dwell time) will likely provide more impact on a selected target. Which is still only ten rounds in Massachusetts. I know the slide is slightly more narrow on the 30s compared to the 30 but the width of both guns is exactly the same according to the Glock specs and the other dimensions are the same. The G30 is actually the subcompact version of the .45 ACP . Drag/drop and reorder the handguns to compare on top of eachother, New handguns and the best gun and ammo deals straight to your inbox, Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger, Striker-Fired Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 45 ACP. John Lennon(.38) Bernard Getz used a .38 to take out multiple attackers. Supposedly the .45 was created for a reason (Philippines), but from what I understand it wasnt to gain performance from the 9mm, but rather a .38 caliber round. Which would you prefer, and why? Unlike All the rest of the web biters out there in that caliber. Glock 19X (G19X) Crossover handgun featuring a compact slide with a full sized frame, built with no finger grooves, Glock Marksman Barrel, ambidextrous slide stop, and comes in coyote color. Shooting the 9mm G19, I hollowed-out a 6.5 group. A .38 caliber isnt a decisive fight stopper, and often requires multiple center mass hits to affect the attacker. Irresponsble Gun Owner of the Day: Andrew Seals, Houston: Four Armed Robbers Attempt Gas Station Heist, An Armed Customer Shoots Three, The New Henry Big Boy Revolvers at NRA Show 2023 [VIDEO], Vudoo Gun Works Unveils the New Priest Double Stack 1911. For those who want to carry a 45acp that's just as easy to concealed, t. That being said, Im not sure whether to feed into the idea of speed and energy into a target (hydrostatic shock). Glock currently produces semi-automatic handguns chambered in seven different cartridges:9x19mm Parabellum (aka 9mm Luger),.357 SIG,.380 ACP,.40 S&W,10mm Auto,.45 ACP (aka .45 Auto), and.45 GAP. I also wonder what would hurt more; a 90 mph baseball, or a non-fatal hit from a 45acp traveling at 850 fps that is burning hot? Not sued. Previous Post Next Post I've been experimenting with a Bladetech 5.11 retention holster for our T&E (Testing and Evaluation) Gen4 Glock 19. Putting aside all the technical factors of shot placement, mag capacity, etc, the truth is that when the poop hits the propeller blades, youre being silly to worry about the 8th, 9th or successive shots. Tom. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Psa 5.7 Rock Pistol Optics Ready W/ Threaded Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Extreme Carry Rock Island 1911 Tactical 9Mm 5" 8Rd Pistol. Considering how fast I can shoot, I do run the risk of emptying my full-size mag faster than a body can fall down . I dont know why. The double spring (I think unique in the 30) along with the ammunition used (I use Magsafe at 1450 FTPS which not only is really fast but the recoil is much lower and the weight of the full magazine is noticeable). Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Its barrel length of 3.78 inches and weights of 1.68 lbs (unloaded) and 2.10 lbs (fully loaded) make it one of the smallest pistols to fire .45 ACP rounds. They are all better than not carrying a gun. As the rabbi noted, some towns are almost shall issue. Others issue, but with restrictions. Bill, this may mean little in the bigger scheme of things, but it's worth considering. Not because carrying 10 rounds of 9mm is suicidal (If I thought that was true, I wouldnt carry a 5 shot .38 on occasion). . The difference with the 9rd mag is incredible. If you properly train and place your shots where they need to go (the A zone, upper chest or center of head), the only person getting killed is the assailant. This is especially true for handguns from different generations or those chambered in different calibers. The Rabbi put forth a test to which more people should pay some heed. They include: The Glock 19 uses the 9 mm round while the Glock 23 uses a .40 caliber round. I have botha springfield xdm 9 compact (19 round extended mags as thats the reason i bought it) and a springfeild xd 45 acp with 14 rds. Ive been really tempted by the capacity of those new .9mms. I subscribe to the adage of putting as much hurt on the attacker as fast as you can. with an empty magazine. I have the opportunity to pick up either a Glock 19 or a Glock 30, in Gen4. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. Both are chambered. Mostly thanks to the durability and reliability of these striker-fired pistols. Technical Data Caliber .45 Auto System Safe Action Mag. I think the older readers on the forum will take all this caliber stuff with a grain of salt. Weights UNLOADED: 750 g/26.48 oz. Glock G19, Gen 4 The GLOCK 30 Gen4 in the 45 Auto offers excellent out-of-the-box precision paired with the ballistic quality of this caliber. As you will see, this is a great weapon for quite a few different uses. 1200 fps and 382 ft/lbs of energy. The Sig p238, and the Colt Govt. i prefer my gen4 g23, but i can see how some would prefer the gen3-even with small hands. Drum roll please, it is, (Are you ready for this?) He would shoot sub-seven second, 10 shot groups, that were well under 2 @ 25 yards as AIMED FIRE. For those who want to carry a 45acp that's just as easy to concealed, then the Glock 30S is something you might compare.ThebGlock 30S is virtually the same physical size as the Glock 19 but is chambered in the 45acp instead of 9mm. So after about 5 min of being told that I was practically unarmed. Which means I might as well carry the .45-caliber G30SF to gain the advantages of larger bullet size (bigger holes) and lack of penetration (slower bullet). Springfield Armory Xdm Elite Pistol 9Mm Osp 4.5" Beretta Apx Carry A1 9Mm Optics Ready Jaxn920A1. Heckler & Koch HK45 (.45 ACP) Naval Special Warfare. It looks like Robert unloaded ten shots from the 9mm but only nine shots from the .45. Don't miss a story! Prosecuted. Glock 30:3rd Picture Below Caliber: .45 ACP/Safe Action Dimensions LENGTH: 177 mm/6.96 in. In my defense (so to speak), I havent been to the range in well over a week. Trivia for which I have no data: I wonder if, on the civilian street, faster splits are actually advantageous with < 11 rounds. Virtually no recoil! It has a capacity of 13+1. Likely 115gr 9mm, fast but little dwell inside the target because of it. I need a picture with that comment. At the same time, Glock handguns are produced in five different size configurations: Standard, Compact, Subcompact, Slimline, and Competition. Cheaper ammo = more practice time. G19 can be whatever Gen you prefer. As the Brits would say, it was six of one, half a dozen of the other. An average attacker at 21, with a knife, can stab you before you draw your weapon. GLOCK safety, reliability, and simple operation, all at an affordable price. less than the 30 which is not a big deal to me. If you are limited to 10 round capacity, the 45 is a better choice. You never know. I keep the G30 on the night stand with 13 round mags. Glad to see the drill was useful. for 356 ft/lbs. The Gen4 G19 has a 4.02" barrel, an overall length of 7.28", a width at the frame of 1.26", and a height of 5.04" (including magazine). One can argue the best Glocks in all their offerings are their 9mm pistols for their excellent ammo capacity. After reading this test, I just went into the range and did it myself. of energy. I agree with all the above. G19V.3 Gray, G19FS.4, G19.4 Full Fde, G21.4 Gray, G22 (Gills).3, G43, Gray, G42, Black, CZ 75D PCR. If you thought it was ok to carry a 2 shot derringer, THEN I could see freaking the f out. I agree with Eddie (he knows what hes talking about) and Ive owned a few 9s and got rid of them all. get the most out of your GLOCK pistol. I called the rabbi. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Retired USAF Aircraft Armament Systems Technician. Yes, the test showed that you can control both guns equally well. g19 all day . Obviously, your mileage may vary. Unloaded, it weighs 23.65 ounces but only goes up to 30 ounces once loaded. The Glock 19 is a compact firearm that is chambered in 9mm. It is my EDC. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. When I got my 30S I posted a side by side size comparison (dunno if it was in this forum or another) with the 30s with the 9rd mag and the 10rd mag compared to my G26 and G19. The flip comes back down faster than most people shoot. But the one thing that keeps me from getting (another) 30/30S is the grip, it still feels fat to me. All depends on where you live. With the 45 round being 2x+ heavier the penetration will be superior and more accurate over greater distance. The Glock 29 and Glock 30 are remarkably similar in outside appearance. Im sorry but 850 feet per second is pretty fast. 15 rounds just sounds attractive, but there is a big controlability deference between all Glock 9mm pistols. During the Moro rebellion of the Philippine-American war in the early 1900s, it was found that the issued pistols in .38 caliber were requiring multiple hits to stop the Moro warriors, and were proving to be not enough to prevent the killing of the targeted officers. The .38 Special measure .357 across and usually weigh about 158 gr and has approx. It is considered one of the best semi-automatic pistols today, due to its robustness, reliability and ease of use. If I am more than 7 yards from my principal, I need to be shot. Meanwhile, its back to the range. Partial to a 45 and may swap my 19 but not concerned. We might argue that the quick shot & miss can make the BG not shoot accurately, but where the heck is that miss going? That cartridge became the .45ACP, (Automatic Colt Pistol). They really have a guilty until proven innocent standard of proof here? Ive been experimenting with a Bladetech 5.11 retention holster for our T&E (Testing and Evaluation) Gen4 Glock 19. It just wasnt ever designed to kill, but to wound. This is particularly true when discussing consealability. Go figure. If I were limited by foolish laws, such as you are, then Id carry a .45 as well. LENGTH BETWEEN SIGHTS: 150 mm/5.91 in. I'm right handed, but have always moved my mag releases on Sig's and Beretta's to the right side so I can drop the mag with my finger off the trigger as well as not having to reposition my hand to reach with my thumb. What oh what could it be? Model are like shooting .22s. How do these two handguns stack up against eachother? All Glock 9mm should be 19s. I've had my 30S for a while now. Note: all Glock handguns chambered in .45 GAP feature octagonal polygonal rifling in order to obtain a better gas seal with a larger bore. Used to have a 36 but it had too many fte's for me to be comfortable with although it was 100 % with self defense loads, at the range with regular ball ammo was a different story. As for sub-machine guns, grouping them in with handguns is comparing apples to oranges. So nobody was prosecuted. Just goes to show. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. If you want to figure how fast a bullet is traveling you multiply its speed in feet per second, (fps) by 3600. to get miles per second, and divide by 5280 to get miles per hour, (mph). Glock G19 Gen4 vs Glock G30 SF size comparison | Handgun Hero Glock G19 Gen4 vs Glock G30 SF Glock G19 Gen4 Striker-Fired Compact Pistol Chambered in 9mm Luger Check Price vs Glock G30 SF Striker-Fired Subcompact Pistol Chambered in 45 ACP Check Price Dimensions Details Capacity Dimensions Customary Metric Want to sell a firearm? Which means I might as well carry the .45-caliber G30SF to gain the advantages of larger bullet size (bigger holes) and lack of penetration (slower bullet).. O OleManDan Registered Joined Jan 31, 2014 Quick Cash Offer Get Offer We make you an quick cash offer online Though they are all semi-automatic pistols, share a number of features (like their "Safe Action" safety system), and parts are interchangeable between certain Glock models, there is sometimes a significant difference between Glock pistols. I did a few size comparison vids this evening. GLOCK 43 I missed the paper with BOTH guns two times out of ten. Sign up for daily stories delivered to your inbox. And to be sure, I meant that as a comment on how hard it can be to control a pistol sometimes, not as an insult. Jeez, Robert. Just then, the tacticool gentlemen next to me butted in with some unsolicited advice. Skyler not to pick on you, but I hear this a lot from 9mm shooters: A .45 is usually just going to be too big.. It is compact, easily controlled at rapid fire, fits easily into my hand, and I have confidence in my skills, so that I know I will stop any attack that comes my way. If operated within design parameters, it works well. Trigger pull is commonly held to be 5.5 pounds, though that can vary a bit per each individual gun you find in stores. Psa 5.7 Rock Pistol Optics Ready W/ Threaded Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Extreme Carry Rock Island 1911 Tactical 9Mm 5" 8Rd Pistol. It is similar in size to the Glock 19 and the Sig P320 but has a lot more punch than the 9mm.. And . Psa Dagger Compact 9Mm Pistol With Swr Rmr Eaa Girsan Mc28Sa 9Mm, 4.8" Barrel, Perry Red Smith And Wesson Performance Center M&P M2.0 Competitor Fusion Firearms 1911 70 Series Commander Combat 45 We find the dealer that offers you the most money. Competition models have a longer barrel length, longer slides, and better sights. For MA residents, every town is different. 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